Plus they used 20mm spacers in the front. They were curbed all around and one was bent. Sold them with pretty much shot tires for 1300 and got these Volks for 2k with brand new tires so it was a no brainer. To be honest when I picked the car up it really appeared Ben had lost interest in it. Lots of things needed attention. Nothing major but it definitely looked nothing like it did in his pics. I've got it looking pretty damn good now though if I don't say so my myself